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Post by Renown on Feb 12, 2006 11:59:47 GMT -5
For those of who don't know...Nintendo's next-gen console has been completed it's been done since December or January if I recall correctly. The only thing left for the Big N to do now is mass-produce it and get enough out for a "global launch" (and if you don't care, why are you reading this?) Awhile back, Iwata stated that on a standard-definition set there'd be no difference between the Revo, 360 and PS3 from firsthand experience that means a lot...the 360 looks pretty damn good on an SDTV (I sometimes question if I have an EDTV.) The point here is do you think Nintendo's next-gen will truly be a revolution or will it fall victim to those two who are necessarily relying on brute force?
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Post by Anti-Sheepskin on Mar 5, 2006 23:29:49 GMT -5
I think that Nintendo's always going to have that loyal, hugely devoted 'fanboy' following. You know, those guys/chicks who buy the GameBoy Advanced in its three different (or more.. I don't know) forms.
In terms of being a 'Revolution' - I think that it'll be a revolution for those Nintendo lovers. As far as it making a huge dent in sales, especially in the United States, I just don't see it. You'll have those people who buy Nintendo buy Nintendo, and everyone else (us "normal people") will continue to go with either Microsoft or Sony.
Nintendo reminds me of Apple in that it's going up against Microsoft, and it comes out with quality that has an appeal to a certain niche in the consumer marketplace.
Good luck with that revolution though, you know?
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Post by Pulp Gamer on Mar 12, 2006 3:19:42 GMT -5
Except that Apple never really went against Microsoft. o.o Apple went against IBM - Sorry, I mean Big Brother. That was before Microsoft essentially use their own contract against them to make Windows based on Apple technology, which came from Xerox, I believe.
Nintendo is pushing the Revolution as a primary system. Rather, they're pushing it as the ideal secondary system. Most people will have either a 360 or PS3, but few will have both. The Revolution, it marketed at the right price, will make the perfect secondary system, likely increasing sales. Also, given Nintendo's history of sales prices versus production costs, they're far more likely to start turning a profit with the Revolution long before Microsoft and Sony turn a profit with their respective consoles (software and peripherals sales don't apply in this case - strictly console hardware).
The Revolution is potentially revolutionary with its controller. At first glance it seems insane. Absurd. Not as much as Sony's boomerang, but still loony. Then you start to consider all the possibilities the new setup allows. It's amazing what can be done. The Revolution will be the first home console to utilise actual three-dimensional controls. Four-dimensional, even. XD While Sony and Microsoft are sticking to the (essentially) 2D controlls of present, Nintendo is pushing to change things again. Next time around, other consoles will likely use similar concepts of immersive controls. Is the industry (and, more importantly, the consumer) ready for this change yet? Most think they aren't, but once they start using the new control scheme, they'll likely change their minds and realise that it really is a brilliant concept. People have made mockups of the nunchucks that operate with, essentially, the same feel and idea of the Revolution controller. On the PC, these mockups work great for FPS's and many other genres. Yes, it takes a little getting used to. There is a learning curve. But there's the same curve every time a new dimension is added to gameplay in some way. Going from 2D to 3D gameplay required a learning curve before people adapted. Going from one button and a stick to a phone-like layout with a dial took time. Then on to other control schemes. A and B to A, B, X and Y. And then adding he analog stick - that took getting used to. You can't expect people to instantly be able to use any control scheme; but, with a little practice, users adapt quickly.
Anyway, Nintendo has the potential for a true revolution of gaming. It's probably the last hope for the drying (dying?) industry on the verge of another crash. All Nintendo has to do is back that potential with kickarse software. Will they succeed in that aspect? I can't say. Obviously, most of their software will be targeted toward children and adults who want to feel like children again. There will be some more mature software, of course. But who knows? Maybe Nintendo will suddenly change all of its tactics? Only time will tell.
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Post by Anti-Sheepskin on Mar 16, 2006 23:48:35 GMT -5
Dude, you write essays like it's your job.
I agree with most of your points in regard to how it may be a revolution - but I think it's only a Revolution to Nintendo, and everyone else will look upon it just like they've looked on GameCube.
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Post by Renown on Mar 17, 2006 13:53:21 GMT -5
That's very untrue, infact both of the more "powerful" [ we don't know this for sure, yet. ] systems are already aligning patents to systematically bite off of Nintendo because of the Revolution. Microsoft is going to release a smaller-form Revolution-based controller between now and next year...Sony is considering using the backward-compatible download option a la Revolution. Both of the deeper pocket companies see Nintendo as playing to a different drummer, whereas their ideas are of true innovation...I mean that says it all right there.
The Gamecube was such as different story, it didn't have major third-party support. I think or rather I believe the Revolution will be totally different - people are criticizing the controller because it's unlike any other in the current generation, people fear change and I'll never know why.
Iwata, himself has said there's no difference in graphical prowess between the Revolution, PS3 and 360 on a standard definition set...which like I've said before means a lot. And on a random side note, if history is any indication, Nintendo has always upped Sony...whether it been technological or just something rather interesting that drew your attention. The Xbox, arguably was only marginally more powerful than the Gamecube.
One last thing I've got to say is I sincerely believe Nintendo has something huge that's going to blow both the PS3 and 360 away, there has to be secrecy for a reason.
...Can you say X1800 XT?
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Post by Anti-Sheepskin on Mar 18, 2006 23:32:39 GMT -5
Well, hopefully they'll release it sometime soon. PS3 has been delayed, XBox 360 doesn't have a large amount of games at current - and I'm not willing to blow four-hundred dollars on it - and then SIXTY bucks for the games. Ridiculous.
I believe it was Hideo Kojima made a point about Revolution being your "Everyday Meal," 360 being your "Pretty good dinner," And PS3 being the "Superb Four-Course meal." I'll take -his- word for it, seeing as though he's designing the games.
I still think PS3 is going to rock on both 360 and Revolution, though I do think that if I had a choice between 360 and Revolution, I'd definitely go with Nintendo. Who else is going to throw surprises - pleasant ones - at you like them.
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Post by Renown on Mar 22, 2006 10:38:40 GMT -5
Tomorrow, that's right people...Thursday we may witness the true name of Nintendo's next-gen platform. Hopefully they won't change the name at all because the name goes with everything this console currently stands for.
What's more important is Iwata may reveal whether or not the Revolution will release in June or not, if so...I'll be the first person to reserve one.
Until tomorrow folks.
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Post by Anti-Sheepskin on Mar 22, 2006 23:26:47 GMT -5
Mike, I hope you and your Nintendo fanboys are ready to be let down when Nintendo releases the "Revolution":
A yellow plastic box with big red bows on it that makes weird noises - it's been made for babies - going along with Nintendos rapidly expanding demographic - the ULTRAYOUTH.
There will be no games, just an attachment that allows you to blow air through it and hear a cool whistle.
Nintendo Fan Boys - Bring it. Really, seriously, I'm not even joking.
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Post by Renown on Mar 22, 2006 23:37:19 GMT -5
That says a lot about both Sony and Microsoft, being as how both of them are copying traits off of the Revolution
Nuff said...
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Post by Anti-Sheepskin on Mar 22, 2006 23:39:09 GMT -5
That's a smear campaign, spread by Fanboys.
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Post by Renown on Mar 22, 2006 23:44:36 GMT -5
No, it's the actual truth....Microsoft has signed patents for the Revo-esque controller.
As far as Sony goes....
Pfft. I could care less.
My money is with the Revolution, the 360 and my PC.
- Which pwnz all three of them by the way.
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Post by Anti-Sheepskin on Mar 22, 2006 23:49:04 GMT -5
Sony... is going to beat both of those consoles in sales, and that's what matters.
Unless Nintendo does go with my ULTRAYOUTH marketing campaign. Then I got my money on the Revolution.
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Post by Renown on Mar 22, 2006 23:52:50 GMT -5
This is a totally irrelevant comment, but it must be made.
As soon as the PS3 launches, it's going to be obselete.
How's that for a delayed next-gen system?
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Post by Anti-Sheepskin on Mar 22, 2006 23:54:01 GMT -5
Whether or not it is obsolete.. is irrelevant.
Every single console is obsolete when it's launched.
Trust me, PS3 is going to make some serious dough.
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Post by Renown on Mar 23, 2006 16:11:51 GMT -5
From the reading of articles concerning the Game Developer's Conference held today, it would seem that Nintendo has changed the Revolution's name....
This is a rumor, I hope for the sake of names this isn't true.
Nintendo GO, which is the Japanese equivalent of Nintendo "Five" - or fifth console. Now, that name doesn't even draw my attention as did the name Revolution.
Because for one the name fit it perfectly and it went with everything the console stood for. GO is nothing more than a numerical namesake in a different language.
Let's just hope Nintendo doesn't go with this name.
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